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Do you wish to join OGardeners?

After you review the list criteria and rules, you can request a subscription to the Google Group. Questions? E-mail the list manager, Kelly Elmore.

OGardeners is an informal e-mail list for Objectivists and others interested in gardening and landscaping. Its purpose is to facilitate discussion and information-sharing amongst Objectivists about the cultivation of flowers, vegetables, shrubs, and trees.

Any Objectivist gardener (or gardener-to-be) may subscribe and post to OGardeners. Moreover, non-Objectivist gardeners are welcome to subscribe to the list, but only as lurkers; they cannot post. OGardeners is not moderated, but members who violate its rules will be subject to moderation, if not unsubscribed.

OGardeners is managed by Kelly Elmore. Kelly has been gardening since she was a child, following her agronomist grandfather through his enormous vegetable garden dropping corn seeds into the holes he made. She loves growing vegetables best, but she also enjoys designing and planting flower gardens for different kinds of spaces. She blogs at Reepicheep's Coracle. She can be reached at kellyelmore79@gmail.com.

OGardeners was launched in April 2010. At present, it has over 35 members.

Subscription

To join the OGardeners mailing list as a poster, you must meet two criteria:

• You must be an Objectivist, meaning that you agree with and live by the principles of Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism as best you understand them.

• You must garden or plan to do so, even if only on a small scale.

Note: You do not qualify as an Objectivist if you consider yourself to be a libertarian (or associate with the Libertarian Party), advocate revising Objectivism (like David Kelley's "open system"), or associate with the false advocates of Objectivism (most notably David Kelley, Nathaniel Branden, Barbara Branden, and Chris Sciabarra).

You can request a subscription to OGardeners via this web form. You must briefly explain how you meet the list's criteria for membership: please write a few sentences. If you are confused or doubtful about the subscription criteria, please do not request a subscription without first e-mailing the list manager Kelly Elmore.

To join the OGardeners mailing list as a lurker, you need only meet either the first or the second criterion. Please indicate that you wish to only lurk -- and why -- when requesting to join the list.

The list is hosted on Google Groups, so subscribing requires an account with Google. (It's free and easy to create.) Click here for instructions on managing your OList subscriptions.

After you subscribe, please post an introduction, including your name, location, and a bit about your interest and experience in gardening.

Rules of the List

The OGardeners list has a few basic rules:

1. Please be friendly or at least civil in posts to the list and in e-mails to the list manager. Subscribers who behave like asses, such as by insulting other list members or attacking Objectivist intellectuals, will be removed from the list. Also, please do not gripe about other list members in posts to the list.

2. Please respect the purpose of the list. Subscribers who prove disruptive -- such as by arguing against Objectivist positions or posting on irrelevant topics -- will be unsubscribed or subject to moderation. Please note that list policy is always off-topic: please direct any comments or questions about the management of the list to the list manager.

3. Please respect the privacy of other list members. Don't forward list messages to blogs, e-mail lists, or other public forums without the author's permission, unless the message is a public announcement meant to be disseminated.

4. Please be considerate about what you choose to post to the list. If a message is likely to be of interest to just one or two people -- such as "thank you!" or "good job!" -- please send that privately, rather than to the whole list. Notably, you are welcome to announce your own work on the list, if relevant.

5. Please refrain from debate on the list. The common goal of all the OLists is to serve our real-life values, not to foster ivory-tower or acrimonious debate. If you disagree with opinions expressed on the list, state your own views and give reasons for them. Any back-and-forth arguments, however, should be taken off-list. (For elaboration, see "A Discussion is Not a Debate" by Jean Moroney.)

List Mechanics

Mail to OGardeners should be addressed to ogardeners@olist.com or ogardeners@googlegroups.com. (Mail to the former address is automatically forwarded to the latter address.)

If you are a subscriber, you can access OGardeners through this web interface. There, you can peruse the archives and change your subscription.

Click here for further instructions on managing your OList subscriptions.

Contact

If you have any questions about or problems with the list, please e-mail the list's manager Kelly Elmore at kellyelmore79@gmail.com.